Holy cirrhosis, Batman! Good show and all that, old sport!

Solid!

I can't remember the last time I bought a Sammy Winter pack. So much better stuffs out there, although I generally respect Sammy as a brewer and won't hesitate to order some of their stuff from the tap while out..... sometimes even pick up a sixer of something like latitude ipa, e.g. I'm not worried about never seeing Fezzi again if that were the case. They probably know what they're doing, decent brewers and smart re: the market.

Fezziwig is in there. Holiday Porter is not. The 12 packs are different than the cases. Both have a double dose of Winter Lager, but the 12 packs also lack Chocolate Bock. I ain't buying a case for 18 bottles of beer I don't want just to get a single or two of Fezziwig and the 4 Choc Bocks.

Haven't even had time to look, but Old fezz is an annual favorite, so as slowrunner77 indicates - I hope it's in there. I like the holiday porter, but usually ended up using them as a baste/us jus for my Christmas standing rib roast.

Ok...here's the response I received after e-mailing Sam Adams: Thank you for your interest in finding more Samuel Adams in your area! We love when drinkers contact us because it helps us better understand how they experience Samuel Adams. This season we moved to a different mix in our variety packs. For the Samuel Adams Winter Favorites pack, the correct mix for a 12 pack is 2 Boston Lager, 4 Winter Lager, 2 Old Fezziwig, and 4 White Christmas. While our 24 packs include those four styles plus Chocolate Bock. All of our seasonal variety packs offer beers that are not available by themselves, but are available only in these variety packs. Above where the beer styles are listed there is an indication of how many bottles of each style should be included. We often put unique beers such as the Old Fezziwig and Chocolate Bock in the variety packs that are not offered in stand-alone 6-packs. As a small craft brewer (1% of the U.S. market) we are big enough to be able to make all of these great brews but not big enough to offer all of them in 6-packs by themselves. We made this change to provide our drinkers with a unique drinking experience. I put forth the question, fellow beerpals....Is a Sam Adams a "small craft brewer?"...as they say?....10 years ago, I might have believed that, but in this response filled with the usual corporate marketing blather, I am not so sure I do now.... At any rate, I just got back from a local bottle house after getting a hair cut, and they had the Fezziwig...I got their last two bottles....but the porter is no where to be found this year....what a shame..[:p][:p][:p][:p]..Glass half full this year....glad I was able to eek out a few for the yuletide....

I wouldn't call them small because of how ubiquitous their beer is. Clearly, they acknowledge this criticism because they added a definition for "small craft brewery). But if market shares are the determining factor, then Bud, Coors, and Miller are the only breweries that are not "small." If SA doesn't crack the 1% mark, then nobody else stands a chance of doing so. And if that is the case, then what the hell is the unholy trinity so worried about? Oh, I get it...it's like walking through a cloud of those Alaskan mosquitoes. They're small, but there is so damn many of them...

Since it's a brandmate, I figgered I'd put Sam Adams Light in here. [}:)] http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/35/1503/?view=beer&sort=&start=75 [^] Really, it gets an overall Thumbs Up. I was surprised, and not really looking for a light beer. But now I'd like to try it sometime. Could Sam Adams & Light Beer both garner a new fan?

sham adams get a rope

quote: Originally posted by KendoSurf Since it's a brandmate, I figgered I'd put Sam Adams Light in here. [}:)] http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/35/1503/?view=beer&sort=&start=75 [^] Really, it gets an overall Thumbs Up. I was surprised, and not really looking for a light beer. But now I'd like to try it sometime. Could Sam Adams & Light Beer both garner a new fan?