quote: Originally posted by cyrenaica Unless somebody chimes in otherwise, I would treat a rye beer similar to a fruit beer and a spiced beer....the category comes under 'ale', but those two categories contain both ales and lagers. So, to me...a rye beer is a rye beer, be it ale or lager. But, that's just me

Unless we know the amount of rye used in the recipe for the beer, I'm with you 100%. Now if rye is used as a specialty malt that makes up a small percentage of the grain bill, probably not. "Generic Brewers Rye IPA" is where I'm always torn.

(Red) (Rye) (Lager) Of the three, the most significant is LAGER. If we don't have a category for red rye lagers, the next most important word is rye. Rye has a distinctive spicy tang, and the more rye in the grain bill, the more pronounced this flavor will be. I would not classify this as an ale just because it has some rye.

Funny, if it is a significant rye malt beer, I think it is clearly the rye beer category. I think rye beer was initially called "rye ale" but was changed because of this exact reason - I thought. No sense in having a Rye Lager category too. The fact that Rye Beer falls under ales on beerpal is only a taxonomy problem / limitation of the site database methinks. For me, rye beer is the best category. I'd look for Flashpro to chime in. Flash?

I don't know a %, but the rye was dominant. Add to that that other rye lagers and even red rye lagers on this site were listed as rye beer and that's where it ended up. There's just no style under lager that comes close. On another note, it was fantastic. Thanks for chiming in, boys.

I like the "rye beer" solution, but I do not like that one must follow the Ale taxon to find it.

quote: Originally posted by FoamDome I like the "rye beer" solution, but I do not like that one must follow the Ale taxon to find it.

This was actually discussed in the Admin Forums in 2012 and resulted in 'Spiced Ale' becoming 'Spiced Beer' due to the existence of Spiced lagers. White it was before my time, but I've never understood the need for a Ale/Lager dichotomy, why not just create a radio button for every style (and add Gose, Gruits, Dampfbiers etc while we're at it, heck, give Lou his Pumpkin Beer category too). When one considers that when adding a beer for Canada, Belgium, Germany, and England you are going through at least a couple of hundred radio buttons for the brewer, what's 80-90 radio buttons for style.

Dangit - now I'm in the mood for a pumpkin beer...

quote: Originally posted by cyrenaica quote: quote: Originally posted by FoamDome I like the "rye beer" solution, but I do not like that one must follow the Ale taxon to find it. This was actually discussed in the Admin Forums in 2012 and resulted in 'Spiced Ale' becoming 'Spiced Beer' due to the existence of Spiced lagers. White it was before my time, but I've never understood the need for a Ale/Lager dichotomy, why not just create a radio button for every style (and add Gose, Gruits, Dampfbiers etc while we're at it, heck, give Lou his Pumpkin Beer category too). When one considers that when adding a beer for Canada, Belgium, Germany, and England you are going through at least a couple of hundred radio buttons for the brewer, what's 80-90 radio buttons for style.

quote: Originally posted by cyrenaica quote: quote: Originally posted by FoamDome I like the "rye beer" solution, but I do not like that one must follow the Ale taxon to find it. This was actually discussed in the Admin Forums in 2012 and resulted in 'Spiced Ale' becoming 'Spiced Beer' due to the existence of Spiced lagers. White it was before my time, but I've never understood the need for a Ale/Lager dichotomy, why not just create a radio button for every style (and add Gose, Gruits, Dampfbiers etc while we're at it, heck, give Lou his Pumpkin Beer category too). When one considers that when adding a beer for Canada, Belgium, Germany, and England you are going through at least a couple of hundred radio buttons for the brewer, what's 80-90 radio buttons for style.

Ah, yes, it *was* discussed, I wasn't crazy. But, I had the style wrong. Regardless, for now I approved as Rye Beer. I agree w/ oddity that we have to force everything into an either ale or lager category or have double Rye Ale and Rye Lager styles...... But, I'm not gonna waste a minute thinking that one through, as I don't have know-how for the database setup on this site, don't have the authority to do a darned thing about if if I did, and it's really all Flash at this point.... In the "mood" for a pumpkin beer? Geez, I *may* have that urge once per year..... definitely not in May ! :)

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Yeah...I'd take a Cigar City Good Gourd or any Elysian pumpkin brew in all but the summer months.