quote: Originally posted by Stoutlover72 I enjoyed the game. Of course, I'm a admittedly bitter Raider fan so watching the haughty Denver Broncos get their ass handed to them by another ex-AFC West team (who by the way put the Niners out to pasture this year) in the Seahawks was a treat. We saw what was, IMO, one of the greatest defenses to play. I don't think they were as dominant as the '85 Bears on a week-to-week basis. I do think they were better than the '00 Ravens. So #2 defense all time (in my time)? I'm okay with that.

As a Seahawk captured it after the game (was it Sherman?), they should be in the conversation. Hard to vote an exact spot, certainly off of one season or game, always for me somewhat of an enduring/sustaining element to that, but darn, it was impressive. Don't leave out the Steelers defenses of the 70s. An amazing showing regardless.

I dearly love watching good defense; I'd happily watch a well-played game that ends 3-0 in OT! Seahawks' D was very good all season, but for this game it was simply beautiful. It's not just Manning, I love seeing that look [8] on ANY QB's face! [8D]

quote: Originally posted by eaglefan538 quote: quote: Originally posted by Stoutlover72 I enjoyed the game. Of course, I'm a admittedly bitter Raider fan so watching the haughty Denver Broncos get their ass handed to them by another ex-AFC West team (who by the way put the Niners out to pasture this year) in the Seahawks was a treat. We saw what was, IMO, one of the greatest defenses to play. I don't think they were as dominant as the '85 Bears on a week-to-week basis. I do think they were better than the '00 Ravens. So #2 defense all time (in my time)? I'm okay with that. As a Seahawk captured it after the game (was it Sherman?), they should be in the conversation. Hard to vote an exact spot, certainly off of one season or game, always for me somewhat of an enduring/sustaining element to that, but darn, it was impressive. Don't leave out the Steelers defenses of the 70s. An amazing showing regardless.

I don't remember a lot of the 70's Steel Curtain except for '78 and '79 when I first started and remembering football. As you know, with free agency it's impossible to have consistency over the course of 10 years, so we resort to single years for reference. The LB core of the Giants/Bears defenses in the late 80's was amazing and HOF worthy. This secondary...wow. They told Manning, we're not scared of you and your calls...we are going to run what we run and dare you to beat us....

quote: Originally posted by fretwalker I dearly love watching good defense; I'd happily watch a well-played game that ends 3-0 in OT! Seahawks' D was very good all season, but for this game it was simply beautiful. It's not just Manning, I love seeing that look [8] on ANY QB's face! [8D]

Agreed. And it was nice seeing Goodell eat it on his jack up the offense plan for the NFL. While others were hoping for snow to backfire in his face, I was quite content to see a studly defense smack him in the face - and with a game that wasn't "boring" cuz it was defense, but boring cuz the D dominated to the point of a 30+ pt spread. No less boring than an offense lighting it up on another team. In fact, maybe more impressive.

quote: quote: Originally posted by Stoutlover72 I don't remember a lot of the 70's Steel Curtain except for '78 and '79 when I first started and remembering football.

Fair enough. But you didn't say the best that *you* saw ;).

quote: quote: As you know, with free agency it's impossible to have consistency over the course of 10 years, so we resort to single years for reference.

I hear ya, I set a bar that is higher. It may be somewhat arbitrary. Too much within a single season that varies to convince me off of one year. And, I'm not talking about a 10yr dynasty. Heck, the 2003 Bucs arguably had a great / one of the best defenses and that was all within the free agency era. Ray Lewis and Baldymore behind (in front of?) Dilfer, too.

quote: quote: The LB core of the Giants/Bears defenses in the late 80's was amazing and HOF worthy. This secondary...wow. They told Manning, we're not scared of you and your calls...we are going to run what we run and dare you to beat us....

I'm not gonna talk down the Seahawks D. Just really hard to put them as "the" best. Definitely in that conversation. Dang, they mocked not just the opposition, but the best offense in the (history of the?) League. (but w/ a Manning Postseason track record asterisk, heh.) Six more months.... It will all be back.

quote: Originally posted by bluesandbarbq SuperBore! That was a thorough and complete beatdown. Seattle was a far superior team than Denver. Defense wins championships. Again. We even had Bob Dylan pimping Chrysler and telling us to "Drink our German beers" which got all of the craft brewers up in a roar on Twitter and Facebook. (Although I believe Bob has a future in narration is he so chooses - his reading voice is quite impressive.) Didn't follow too many ads during the SBore. Drank a couple of good beers. Went to bed before the game ended. Bring on baseball. And NASCAR (although that is boring as hell too.) And grilling season. And fishing season. The NFL has the Draft, college football has National Signing Day which is this Wed, Feb 5. Hardcore college fans (yours truly) will enjoy Wednesday to see which players choose to sign with our favorite teams. Fun day for NCAA football fans. Go VOLS

Agreed except the last part. [:D]

I'm wanting the new NFL season to start already! Wonder if the AFL is on now...? [:p]

quote: Originally posted by KendoSurf I'm wanting the new NFL season to start already! Wonder if the AFL is on now...? [:p]

Yes. [:D]

My N'ORLINS VOODOO are sucking pretty bad right now.[:I] http://www.arenafootball.com/sports/a-footbl/spec-rel/standings.html

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