quote: Originally posted by Suds McDuff quote: quote: Originally posted by mitchforgie DnB! I had no idea anyone else here would be interested! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPJz1WDUZmk&feature=related great track.. i have always loved ViRuS recordings... you like ViRuS? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD3QyHjqIJg Holy shit - that Ed Rush shit f'ing rules! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6QR8A9_iFU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgeQ-h-Tofo

quote: Originally posted by beercronic quote: quote: Originally posted by Suds McDuff quote: quote: quote: Originally posted by mitchforgie DnB! I had no idea anyone else here would be interested! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPJz1WDUZmk&feature=related great track.. i have always loved ViRuS recordings... you like ViRuS? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD3QyHjqIJg Holy shit - that Ed Rush shit f'ing rules! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6QR8A9_iFU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgeQ-h-Tofo

What makes that the shit exactly? I'm clueless (be gentle) as hell as that sounds like something off a Japanese video game to me. Makes me want to eat lots of sugar and go spastic.

quote: Originally posted by Stoutlover72 quote: quote: Originally posted by beercronic quote: quote: quote: Originally posted by Suds McDuff quote: quote: quote: quote: Originally posted by mitchforgie DnB! I had no idea anyone else here would be interested! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPJz1WDUZmk&feature=related great track.. i have always loved ViRuS recordings... you like ViRuS? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD3QyHjqIJg Holy shit - that Ed Rush shit f'ing rules! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6QR8A9_iFU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgeQ-h-Tofo What makes that the shit exactly? I'm clueless (be gentle) as hell as that sounds like something off a Japanese video game to me. Makes me want to eat lots of sugar and go spastic.

i don't know.. its just awesome.. the build ups, the bass, knowing what goes into making the tracks... and being there live when a track drops on a really huge sound system.. impossible to really put into words... its also quite amazing how some of these can mix some songs together so seamlessly.. i would ask you the same about iron maiden, why do like that stuff.. i just went on youtube and listened to a hand full of there songs, doesn't seem that great to me...[?] but we're all insanely different so i guess that's the only reason why i like this and you like that..

quote: Originally posted by Suds McDuff quote: quote: Originally posted by Stoutlover72 quote: quote: quote: Originally posted by beercronic quote: quote: quote: quote: Originally posted by Suds McDuff quote: quote: quote: quote: quote: Originally posted by mitchforgie DnB! I had no idea anyone else here would be interested! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPJz1WDUZmk&feature=related great track.. i have always loved ViRuS recordings... you like ViRuS? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD3QyHjqIJg Holy shit - that Ed Rush shit f'ing rules! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6QR8A9_iFU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgeQ-h-Tofo What makes that the shit exactly? I'm clueless (be gentle) as hell as that sounds like something off a Japanese video game to me. Makes me want to eat lots of sugar and go spastic. i don't know.. its just awesome.. the build ups, the bass, knowing what goes into making the tracks... and being there live when a track drops on a really huge sound system.. impossible to really put into words... its also quite amazing how some of these can mix some songs together so seamlessly.. i would ask you the same about iron maiden, why do like that stuff.. i just went on youtube and listened to a hand full of there songs, doesn't seem that great to me...[?] but we're all insanely different so i guess that's the only reason why i like this and you like that..

Good point. I guess I look at the difficulty of getting 6 guys to play really difficult music at different paces, and the skill it takes to play the music and hit the notes. Maybe it's just that I don't know how hard it is to make a song or have the sound you enjoy (do they program a computer for this, or hold fingers down on a keyboard?). I don't belittle it at all, I just don't know much about it and would like to know why it's the shit. Is there something that's awfully bad, and you can say..."see, this is crap and this is the best"? To these untrained ears, it sounds like something from a video game.

I see the drum and bass association with video games. especially with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkSacSwbMGo This is more dubstep though, which is the more accessible love child of drum and bass and the UK rave scene. I have had many debates about the merits of instruments vs. electronic, but I feel like the modern day generation is looking to interact with music more than just listen to it at home. To interact with it, one must be able to impress their own indiviuality on the music, something this hyper-individualistic generation is completely preoccupied with... the easiest way to interact for most of us who can't play instruments/don't have the time is dancing. Electronic music has been largely made to be danceable with a predictable beat and the rest, but it is more than this. A electronic track can be changed and customized live to a dancefloor by a mediocre dj delivering a consistent product to a crowd. With this option, live music from bands playing real instruments have become prohibtely expensive, both for inconsistent turn-out, inconsistent quality, capital investment, booking staff and that translates into higher prices for a live show. Therefore its harder to interact with a bigger risk for venues. So the merits of the music itself are not better or worse, just a matter of interaction. To see how live electronic tracks are put together can be found by searching for videos on youtube about the software used, like 'ableton' 'serato' or 'traktor'. Looping pedals are often part of it too. Jamie Woon uses this in an acoutic track here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZfDbEQAfOY Dubstep on the other hand is the punk and metal of this generation, too loud and noisy for the mainstream... but has substance and identity. I like this mix alot: http://www.fabriclondon.com/blog/view/audio-mistajams-jam-packed-fabriclive-mix I second Suds though, experiencing it live on a big soundsystem changes everything.

quote: Originally posted by mitchforgie I see the drum and bass association with video games. especially with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkSacSwbMGo This is more dubstep though, which is the more accessible love child of drum and bass and the UK rave scene. I have had many debates about the merits of instruments vs. electronic, but I feel like the modern day generation is looking to interact with music more than just listen to it at home. To interact with it, one must be able to impress their own indiviuality on the music, something this hyper-individualistic generation is completely preoccupied with... the easiest way to interact for most of us who can't play instruments/don't have the time is dancing. Electronic music has been largely made to be danceable with a predictable beat and the rest, but it is more than this. A electronic track can be changed and customized live to a dancefloor by a mediocre dj delivering a consistent product to a crowd. With this option, live music from bands playing real instruments have become prohibtely expensive, both for inconsistent turn-out, inconsistent quality, capital investment, booking staff and that translates into higher prices for a live show. Therefore its harder to interact with a bigger risk for venues. So the merits of the music itself are not better or worse, just a matter of interaction. To see how live electronic tracks are put together can be found by searching for videos on youtube about the software used, like 'ableton' 'serato' or 'traktor'. Looping pedals are often part of it too. Jamie Woon uses this in an acoutic track here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZfDbEQAfOY Dubstep on the other hand is the punk and metal of this generation, too loud and noisy for the mainstream... but has substance and identity. I like this mix alot: http://www.fabriclondon.com/blog/view/audio-mistajams-jam-packed-fabriclive-mix I second Suds though, experiencing it live on a big soundsystem changes everything.

Good stuff there bro. Thank you.

On the topic of strange music. I must warn your ears to be prepared: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbW9JqM7vho&feature=fvwrel The first rap song that I know about that raps about circumcision. (The subject matter is about the "coming of age" practice in South Africa where a father crudely cuts off his sons foreskin to become a man.)

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I missed this a few months ago! I have to say that after seeing a lot of shows around Philadelphia before I got married, the most amazing experience, without a doubt, was watching the Chemical Brothers indoors at the Electric Factory. And no, there were no drugs involved. I swear you could feel the concrete floor rippling with the bass. The strobe lights made the room pure white at times. Dozens of projectors threw bizarre images all over the crazy rotating objects and screens in the room. The two guys performing were not all that exciting, but they were able to play the crowd and the build ups were incredible. Gives you chills.

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