quote: quote: Originally posted by FoamDome Publishing the review of a damaged bottle is unfair. Light-struck, too hot, too cold, too old: these are not the brewer's fault. If the beer is really infected (wild yeast, bacteria contamination, etc.), then yes, that's a problem with the brewery's production and quality control. But do you have enough information withstand a libel suit if you are wrong about the cause of the off-flavors? Give the brewer feedback they can use, not a sucker punch they may not deserve. Don't make too much out of the fact that I appear to be agreeing with Cottrell in public. Even a blind squirrel can find an acorn. I just made that up.

You might approach each beer with this kind of puritanical viewpoint, but it's nigh impossible..in the craft beer industry...to rate a beer that's in pristine condition. Rate it. It's not like we're professionals anyways and while I agree with FD in the spirit of what he's stating, the reality is if we rated beer only in the perfect condition....well...there'd be a WHOLE lot less rates on many a beer rating website. Our opinions can always be changed/edited on here to reflect a beer that's a better/worse product the next time we get it.

quote: Originally posted by Clash This wasn't a problem until Mr Facto went to work there, and I'm serious.

Is that guy the brewer or just a floor sweeper?? Kinda scary to think he has anything to do with the making of the beer.

quote: Originally posted by Stoutlover72 Rate it... Our opinions can always be changed/edited on here to reflect a beer that's a better/worse product the next time we get it.

Indeed. If I don't have a written record, I won't be able to compare one bottle to another. I just will not remember if the last bottle I had of a given beer was sour or whatever. I need the review to archive my past...I swear, my life is akin to that of a goldfish; if it happened more than a couple of days ago, then I don't remember it. And I am not one to start multiple records of my reviews; trying to maintain one set is hard enough.

quote: Originally posted by FoamDome too old: these are not the brewer's fault.

If they aren't marking their bottles with a date bottled or best by date, it absolutely IS their fault. A stamped bottle let's the consumer know when the distributor/retailer is being lazy. No date means the brewer is being lazy.

It was a colossal disappointment to get that beer and have that outcome. I got the bottle about half a year ago in a trade. I don't doubt the cellar conditions of the trader one bit. My conditions were unchanging and with constant temp in the dark. I think what really happened - as with most things that encounter being around mmmmqueer - is that the beer felt so instantly disgusted that it threw up inside the bottle.

quote: Originally posted by slowrunner77 quote: quote: Originally posted by FoamDome too old: these are not the brewer's fault. If they aren't marking their bottles with a date bottled or best by date, it absolutely IS their fault. A stamped bottle let's the consumer know when the distributor/retailer is being lazy. No date means the brewer is being lazy.

You make an excellent point.

quote: Originally posted by beercronic - is that the beer felt so instantly disgusted that it threw up inside the bottle.

The beer was obviously anti-Harper...........

Rate it if you feel the need to, and be clear in what the issues are. I've rated infected beers before, sometimes voicing your opinion on a potential brewery issue can save others from spending good money on a shiny bottle with problems inside.

Review will be posted, with disclaimers. thanks for the advice all!

dude, there you go getting all "logical" again. [;)]

quote: Originally posted by kinger Rate it if you feel the need to, and be clear in what the issues are. I've rated infected beers before, sometimes voicing your opinion on a potential brewery issue can save others from spending good money on a shiny bottle with problems inside.