with the Stone/JP/Nogne 3-way, it was actually a different beer (same base) that ended up bottled at each place. Ideally, if it's the same beer, it serves little purpose to do it 3 different times, but if each place will addto/change the buff liked the spiced holiday ale, then for sure, 3 different beers. i didn't even know each place was releasing it seperately.

quote: Originally posted by FoamDome slowrunner, what about BUFF? Yes, the first batch was brewed, bottled, and distributed using Stone's equipment and network. But the second batch rotates to Dogfish, with a different label and everything. Then they rotate to Victory. Should we keep Stone as the brewer of record because they were first, or treat all three beers as different beers?

Tough subject - being the neanderthal that I am, I have no clear answer, but I do have a request: make it easy to seach and find.

quote: Originally posted by fargingbastige6 Tough subject - being the neanderthal that I am, I have no clear answer, but I do have a request: make it easy to seach and find.

That's good input, fb6! I am pretty sure I can edit the '/' out with no problem and that will help with the search. I did not know that the slash made searches harder until today.

quote: Originally posted by slowrunner77 with the Stone/JP/Nogne 3-way, it was actually a different beer (same base) that ended up bottled at each place. Ideally, if it's the same beer, it serves little purpose to do it 3 different times, but if each place will addto/change the buff liked the spiced holiday ale, then for sure, 3 different beers. i didn't even know each place was releasing it seperately. quote: quote: Originally posted by FoamDome slowrunner, what about BUFF? Yes, the first batch was brewed, bottled, and distributed using Stone's equipment and network. But the second batch rotates to Dogfish, with a different label and everything. Then they rotate to Victory. Should we keep Stone as the brewer of record because they were first, or treat all three beers as different beers?

The three different brewings at the three different locations should be listed separately under each brewery location. They will be different. The name order on a bottle should have no bearing on the brewery under which we list these things. The brewery/bottling location should be listed first. In the case of Saison du BUFF, I think the names were never printed linearly on the bottle? Instead, there was a triangle. I don't think it matters what order we use if there isn't clarity on the bottle - and as long as the brewery location is listed first in the name. Beerpal's search algorithm stinks. It won't help finding these beers. Go on ratebeer and type in saison du buff, and you'll get all three listings at the same time (if they're all in the db yet).

cool - i'm excited there will be three versions of this beer!

quote: Originally posted by eaglefan538 quote: quote: Originally posted by slowrunner77 with the Stone/JP/Nogne 3-way, it was actually a different beer (same base) that ended up bottled at each place. Ideally, if it's the same beer, it serves little purpose to do it 3 different times, but if each place will addto/change the buff liked the spiced holiday ale, then for sure, 3 different beers. i didn't even know each place was releasing it seperately. quote: quote: quote: Originally posted by FoamDome slowrunner, what about BUFF? Yes, the first batch was brewed, bottled, and distributed using Stone's equipment and network. But the second batch rotates to Dogfish, with a different label and everything. Then they rotate to Victory. Should we keep Stone as the brewer of record because they were first, or treat all three beers as different beers? The three different brewings at the three different locations should be listed separately under each brewery location. They will be different. The name order on a bottle should have no bearing on the brewery under which we list these things. The brewery/bottling location should be listed first. In the case of Saison du BUFF, I think the names were never printed linearly on the bottle? Instead, there was a triangle. I don't think it matters what order we use if there isn't clarity on the bottle - and as long as the brewery location is listed first in the name. Beerpal's search algorithm stinks. It won't help finding these beers. Go on ratebeer and type in saison du buff, and you'll get all three listings at the same time (if they're all in the db yet).

quote: Originally posted by eaglefan538 The name order on a bottle should have no bearing on the brewery under which we list these things. The brewery/bottling location should be listed first.

Agreed with the first half and I see how this applies to the Stone/JP/Nogne 3-way.

quote: In the case of Saison du BUFF, I think the names were never printed linearly on the bottle? Instead, there was a triangle.

Three different labels have been approved, one signed by Greg, then Sam, then Bill. Collect all three!

quote: I don't think it matters what order we use if there isn't clarity on the bottle - and as long as the brewery location is listed first in the name.

Aren't there examples where the common name shows Stone 3d even though they bottled? Do you propose changing the name in our vault? I propose that we use "common name" brewer order. Then the question is, "who gets singular brewer credit in the vault?" That credit would go to the bottler, or, in the case of du Buff, the first bottler.

I want to add this:http://www.shmaltzbrewing.com/HEBREW/reunion.html Am I correct in thinking that it should be listed under Shmaltz Brewing because it is: 1. Brewed and bottled by Shmaltz 2. Shmaltz is listed first [?] If this is already in the database, point me there because I did not see it under either brewer.

quote: Originally posted by jlozier I want to add this:http://www.shmaltzbrewing.com/HEBREW/reunion.html Am I correct in thinking that it should be listed under Shmaltz Brewing because it is: 1. Brewed and bottled by Shmaltz 2. Shmaltz is listed first [?] If this is already in the database, point me there because I did not see it under either brewer.

http://www.beerpal.com/Reunion---A-For-Hope-2011-%28Terrapin%29--Beer/45571/ matches your label of 7.3%

quote: quote: quote: Originally posted by cyrenaica quote: quote: quote: quote: Originally posted by jlozier I want to add this:http://www.shmaltzbrewing.com/HEBREW/reunion.html Am I correct in thinking that it should be listed under Shmaltz Brewing because it is: 1. Brewed and bottled by Shmaltz 2. Shmaltz is listed first [?] If this is already in the database, point me there because I did not see it under either brewer. http://www.beerpal.com/Reunion---A-For-Hope-2011-%28Terrapin%29--Beer/45571/ matches your label of 7.3%

Thanks...I was looking for a beer that mentioned both brewers and skimmed right over that listing, which doesn't seem to follow the format. Now the question is raised: Is it in the right place?

quote: Originally posted by jlozier quote: quote: quote: quote: Originally posted by cyrenaica quote: quote: quote: quote: quote: Originally posted by jlozier I want to add this:http://www.shmaltzbrewing.com/HEBREW/reunion.html Am I correct in thinking that it should be listed under Shmaltz Brewing because it is: 1. Brewed and bottled by Shmaltz 2. Shmaltz is listed first [?] If this is already in the database, point me there because I did not see it under either brewer. http://www.beerpal.com/Reunion---A-For-Hope-2011-%28Terrapin%29--Beer/45571/ matches your label of 7.3% Thanks...I was looking for a beer that mentioned both brewers and skimmed right over that listing, which doesn't seem to follow the format. Now the question is raised: Is it in the right place?

I'll leave that for the American reps to decide :) I simply searched for 'Reunion' and then compared what was listed with the website you provided. There's a Scottish Ale with the exact same name that is 8.5% so somebody will have to do a little research to determine what's what.