General Beer Discussion by SURFSLEEZ
The overall prices of beers has been going up lately in the Central NY area where I live. For a long time I've used the '$2.00 Six Pack" as my standard for a GOOD price. SOMETIMES I can find 30 packs in that range, but that seems to be going the way of the dinosaur. Just today I bought two 30's of MHL, $9.99 each, before taxes and deposit, on sale at the nearest convenience store. For all I know it could be the last time at this price. Micros and imports are almost always more expensive than macros, and the prices tend to be less stable. An exceptional situation was when Koch's GAB was still owned by the original company which brewed in Dunkirk, NY. They had (imho) the BEST brew at the CHEAPEST price !!! Now that label is owned by Genesee in Rochester, NY. What are the logistics where YOU live???
16 years ago
I have never seen a $2 sixer. BMC products are $5-6, micros about $8 per sixer. The cheapest I have ever drank was 1 case of Naty Light ($10) about 14 years ago. On occassion, I will see Coors or Bud for $7.99 per 12. Am I getting ripped off here? (No smart-assed comments about 'yes, you're getting ripped off if you are buyiung Coors', please).
I happened to stare at the swill chart at my local distributor 2 nights ago and commented to my wife on my findings. Most of the cases were $15-19 each (I think they were 30 packs). BUT I saw that milwaulkies best was only $11! I got a laugh out of that. I think miller high life was one of the $19 ones, but either way, $9.99 is definitely cheap!
A lot of the local micros here are in the $20's for 24. I picked up a case of newcastle for $29 and change for a friend. Dogfish Head pale ale was $30.
This message was edited by Flashpro at 7/30/2004 3:08:32 PM.
In Reply To #1 30 racks around here go for an average of $15-20. There are some cheap ones, Red Dog and Pabst go for about $11 each. And no Brett, those prices look about right. I was behind a guy in the local store the other day who bought a 30 of Coors light for $25. I wanted to kick him and tell him what better things I could have done with that $25. Micros on the other hand, go for about $8 around here, depending on the brewery. Some are cheaper, but not a whole lot so.
I'm in the DC area. We get good distribution here. Between the Embassies and the international college students, we get good demand for imports. Wetten Importers in Lorton, VA pulls in some excellent European brews to help keep local retailers stocked. There is a fair demand for American micro and craft-brewed beers, and the selection from the mid-Atlantic region is excellent. We also have half a dozen outstanding brewers in the area. San Diego and Denver are better known beer havens, but DC is up there. I have prices for many beers on a spreadsheet. Email me and I'll send it to you.
In Reply To #1 In my area, you know what I am gonna say-prices are GREAT!!!!! Drinking ain't a sin here like in the states, bier is food, the prices are great. Very decent Pils, 20 .5 liter for 5 Euro. Want better, ok, 12.50 to 17 for damn near any biers in the country, and if you go to the towns that brew the bier, cheaper yet. Singles are .25 to .9 The .33 bottles that the high alcohol biers come in at 17 Euro for 24 bottles. All prices are plus .8 deposit on bottles (.15 for the wirecap jobs), you do return bottles here! Cheaper yet,?Prague and points East. And once again for all you folks that love that off the wall crap in Belgium (LOL) Roachfart goes for 1.10 Euro and is the most expensive trappist. Sixtus from the Abbey, (the 12) runs .75, and Bernardus, the local Sixtus knockoff, goes out for .70 for the .33 liter bottles. all the other "wonder ales" from Belgium are in the same price range. In California, the prices are ttoo damn much for micro brews, around 5to7$ Us for a sixer. I started working for an importer to get better bier and decent prices it worked. When the bier we had got to the 9 month mark, I bought case (20 .5 liter) for $10, and sold them at SFSU and beyond for $20. Hey, hey! Moral, want cheap bier get outta the US. Short of that, go to work part time, or at least make friends with the local bier slingers, there are great dels to be had unter der tish. (or is is das or die tish?).
In Reply To #6 You make me jealous, in a good way, please keep posting about the good life in Bier Himmel! I miss Germany and can't wait to go back. (Belgium would be even better, in my opinion, but as we may disagree, I'll not press that point.) We came back from Deutchland 4 years ago, after 2 years in Kaiserslautern and 2 years in Vilseck. I always thought the recycling system you mentioned was so cool. We put bottles out by the curb here, but who knows what happens to them. PS--As I recall, Tisch is masculine, so I think the proper article is "der," as in "unter der Tisch" for what happened to me after my first Hefe Weizen!
In Reply To #1 I've been drinking for about 25+ years, and still don't remember getting a 2 buck sixer. As for now, my chosen swill brings between 3 and four bucks a six, 6 to 7.50 a twelve. Good beer? Easily seven to 8 bucks a sixer. Great beer? The pocket is the only limit. And, may I add (as Bluez so eloquently pointed out) good beer isn't even sold around here. Damn, the need to travel.
Update--That convenience store NOT ONLY has $9.99 for 30's, but has even increased the selection/variety! MHL, MHL Light, Icehouse, and even Cottrell's favorite slummin' brew...I thought of his name when I saw it...ohmuhgosh, I'm being brainwashed by beerpal.com!!?!!?!?!?!?!?
In Reply To #1 Beer prices in Pittsburgh vary....Remember, we here in the People's Republic of Pennsylvania have a Liquor Control Board to deal with, so the senseless government regulations play a role, not to mention alcohol taxes, and occupational/business taxes will play a role, as those costs are passed on to the consumer...Welcome to our world!....In general, though, I think it depends on what types of beer you mean...For the beer's I drink, I expect to pay anywhere between $3.00 and $8.00 for a beer off the tap or for an 12 oz bottle, with 22 oz bottles ranging between $10.00 and $15.00....Some beers are grossly overpriced by certain places....I have squaked more than once about the price of certain Belgain Trappist Ales at the Sharp Edge Creek House in PGH being anywhere between 10 and 14 dollars for a 12 oz bottle.....That is not right...Which is why if I want a Trappist Rochefort #6, or a Westmalle Dubbel, I go to Bado's Ale House where they are about $8.00 a pop.... Oiz
Nowadays, a $3.00 six pack is about the best price you'll see around here...but only in bigger quantities than a six or a twelve pack. Extra Gold 30 racks math = less than $3.00 per sixer, but not by much. Still, it's the best quality-value deal around, but it's not widely available.