I skimmed the long posts

I agree with you, Qatfish...if it's on the menu, it's an intended "separate" offering.

i've never reviewed a mix, but...Youngberry...served at the Yardouse in Honolulu was the best I've had to date. 50-60% Youngs Dbl Chocolate Stout (has to be nitro for best texture) and half Lidemans Framboise. YUMMY!!!

So, just in case there were any changes in the last five years of which I am unaware: Is it still unacceptable to review Dogfish Head's Alehouse 75?

quote: Originally posted by Qatfish So, just in case there were any changes in the last five years of which I am unaware: Is it still unacceptable to review Dogfish Head's Alehouse 75?

I'm guessing it's a blend of 60 and 90 minute? Is it bottled and sold to the public as a blend? If so, why can't we rate it? I mean, geueze's are blended..lots of ales from various brewers (Firestone, Bruery, Stone, etc) are blended. If it was a house/bartender blend then obviously no. But if it's a bottled beverage sold to the public for consumption...why not?

quote: Originally posted by Stoutlover72 Is it bottled and sold to the public as a blend?

It is not bottled, it is sold to the public as a blend.

quote: Originally posted by Stoutlover72 If so, why can't we rate it?

The the preceding four pages. [;)]

Ah. I didn't bother to re-read all that....again. If it's a prepackaged beer...rate. If it's a blend by Joey the bartender...nada. Is DFH 75 a pre-blended tap pull or is this something Joey blends by his own hands? Guess I'm not clear on that. Does Sam C. or one of his minions there at DFH blend the 60 and 90, put it in kegs and sell it that way? If that's the case, I don't see the big hubub about not being able to rate that.

quote: quote: Originally posted by Stoutlover72 Is DFH 75 a pre-blended tap pull or is this something Joey blends by his own hands? Guess I'm not clear on that.

As I understand it, it's something between the two. In its favor, DFH advertises this on the menus, etc., AS IF it is a prepackaged mixture. It's published on the corporate menus with its own ABV and description. DFH has made [url="http://www.beerpal.com/Dogfish-Head-75-Minute-IPA-Beer/10217/"]a prepackaged version[/url], in bottles and for events. It's not the invention of a rogue bartender, it comes to him from the top down. Against it, at least as far as I know, DFH expects bartenders to make it on the scene. Apparently they do not receive it in bottles or kegs, they are taught to mix 60 and 90 at the bar. I think that's why it's called "Alehouse 75": it's made at the DFH Alehouses. So, on the one hand, I don't buy the argument that it's something DFH does not intend to sell; they do. But I do think the argument that the mix might not be 100% consistent from one drink to the next has some merit. [:)]

(Without going back and reading pages of old posts)...It's been bottled at least once and sold as its own product. It's listed here as its own beer and rate able as such. 90 isn't unrateable because its halfway between 60 and 120. Mendocino eye of the hawk and the stout are blended to create Black Eye, a separate bottled beer. Also rate able. I'm not seeing the issue here. This isn't an example of a bar mixing two beers and calling it something else on their menu, it's its own thing, own bottle, own name. Sooooo many examples of this...

quote: quote: quote: Originally posted by slowrunner77 It's listed here as its own beer and rate able as such.... I'm not seeing the issue here.... it's its own thing, own bottle, own name.

When permission to review Alehouse 75 was denied before, two reasons were given: 1. Despite all evidence to the contrary, such as the already-existing prepackaged version and the corporate menu, some folks insisted that the brewers did not intend for 60 & 90 to be consumed in this manner. For example: "often times the wishes of the brewers and the pub management are at odds. I know of many instances where a mix has been done at the pub level that was very much against the wishes of the brewers yet they could do nothing about it." It sounded like some of the folks here thought beers should only be added to the database if you could provide a sworn affidavit from a brewer saying "I approve the existence of this beer of my own free will and without any coercion from anyone else working in the corporation." [;)] All the available evidence, however, points DFH intending for people to drink 75. 2. Alehouse 75 is not prepackaged. It is similar to, not 100% exactly the same as, the rateable 75. "It is hard enough to accurately mix two or more beers in a prepackaged manner, that is consistent. There is no way a bartender will ever make the same mix each time. Each review would essentially be a different beer." This, as I said, seems to me a more plausible reason for not including it in the database. [|)] I'm just checking in to see whether the "No, Alehouse 75 may not be rated" policy has changed in any way, whether a clearer rule of thumb has been articulated, or something along those lines. [:)]