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As A Canadian...

Non-Beer Discussion by MITCHFORGIE

Jeez, hope I don't get burned alive for this one, but I thought this might be an extremely varied community to through this one out to.... about the election thats upon you (if you vote in the states that is): http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/10/23/163473712/if-the-world-picked-u-s-president-obama-would-win-by-a-landslide This information did not surprise me one bit, and boy does it ring true! I have travelled the world over, and there is one thing the world loves to hate, and its the states, but internationally, Obama has quite a good reputation and alot of respect. He has come into a very challenging presidency, and while they may not vote for him, in the two party system adopted by the United States, the world largely perceives him to be the lesser of evils.... My point is, as a Canadian, is Foreign Policy and the image of the united states important to Americans, and given the information provided, would this alter your vote at all?


12 years ago
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Thanks for your candor Mitch. Unfortunately, at least where I live, which is currently the most politically inundated area of the USA, I have seen signs such as "Fire Obama" and "Defend Freedom, Defeat Obama".

12 years ago
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# 2

All 3 candidates (incl. Johnson, the Libertarian) are weak in foreign policy, with one candidate demonstrating the weakness for almost 4 years now, the other two have not had an opportunity. There is nothing that any candidate can say in their campaign that will change the way I am planning to vote.

12 years ago
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# 3

quote: Originally posted by mitchforgie
My point is, as a Canadian, is Foreign Policy and the image of the united states important to Americans, and given the information provided, would this alter your vote at all?
No.

12 years ago
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# 4

CLASH
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CLASH
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quote: quote: quote: quote: Originally posted by bluesandbarbq
quote: quote: quote: quote: quote: Originally posted by mitchforgie
My point is, as a Canadian, is Foreign Policy and the image of the united states important to Americans, and given the information provided, would this alter your vote at all?
No.
THIS Try turning the tables on this one. I don't imagine there would be favorable reaction in France or Turkey if we started saying "Hey check out this poll, the U.S wants you to vote for this guy instead" They would call us big stupid yankees and tell us to go f*** off as they should.

12 years ago
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# 5

+1

quote: Originally posted by Clash
quote: quote: quote: quote: quote: Originally posted by bluesandbarbq
quote: quote: quote: quote: quote: quote: Originally posted by mitchforgie
My point is, as a Canadian, is Foreign Policy and the image of the united states important to Americans, and given the information provided, would this alter your vote at all?
No.
THIS Try turning the tables on this one. I don't imagine there would be favorable reaction in France or Turkey if we started saying "Hey check out this poll, the U.S wants you to vote for this guy instead" They would call us big stupid yankees and tell us to go f*** off as they should.

12 years ago
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# 6

CYRENAICA
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CYRENAICA
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quote: Originally posted by mitchforgie
Jeez, hope I don't get burned alive for this one, but I thought this might be an extremely varied community to through this one out to.... about the election thats upon you (if you vote in the states that is): http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/10/23/163473712/if-the-world-picked-u-s-president-obama-would-win-by-a-landslide This information did not surprise me one bit, and boy does it ring true! I have travelled the world over, and there is one thing the world loves to hate, and its the states, but internationally, Obama has quite a good reputation and alot of respect. He has come into a very challenging presidency, and while they may not vote for him, in the two party system adopted by the United States, the world largely perceives him to be the lesser of evils.... My point is, as a Canadian, is Foreign Policy and the image of the united states important to Americans, and given the information provided, would this alter your vote at all?
As a Canadian who spent several years living in the US (Cambridge, MA, and Memphis, TN), I can honestly say that most Americans I know, could care less about what the rest of the world thinks. Nor should they. Personally, I think the majority of Canadians spend too much worrying about how other countries look at us. To the average American, foreign policy/perception is not the #1 priority, especially when compared to their economy, standard of living, etc I think Americans (and indeed all people) need to worry more about things at home than what the world thinks of them. America has a lot of internal issues that need to be taken care of, and that means voting for the person that they think will solve them. Also keep in mind that the majority of countries in the world have political systems that are politically central or slightly left of central (even our own Conservatives are nowhere near as Right-Wing as Republicans) which would create a bias towards Obama. However, America is America, and is a very unique place, and while their policies may seem foreign to most, it works extremely well for them.

12 years ago
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OIZNOP
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OIZNOP
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Let me put this succinctly as possible....THE REST OF THE WORLD NEEDS TO MIND IT'S OWN FRICKIN BUSINESS!...[:0][:0][:0][:0][:0][:0]....

12 years ago
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# 8

quote: Originally posted by cyrenaica I think Americans (and indeed all people) need to worry more about things at home than what the world thinks of them. America has a lot of internal issues that need to be taken care of, and that means voting for the person that they think will solve them. Also keep in mind that the majority of countries in the world have political systems that are politically central or slightly left of central (even our own Conservatives are nowhere near as Right-Wing as Republicans) which would create a bias towards Obama. However, America is America, and is a very unique place, and while their policies may seem foreign to most, it works extremely well for them.
This is quite true. I personally feel that governments should and likely will move in more regional directions so that the overhead necessary to do whats right for a region is easier. For example, where I live in interior BC, marijuana is pretty much everywhere, its not uncommon to smell it, not uncommon to smoke it, and people who don't like myself, don't really have much of a problem with it. That said, there are regions of the country where legalization is like suggesting we re-instate the death penalty. In other places the death penalty is not even a point of debate and it is generally accepted the same way that British Columbians generally accept marijuana use. I think the way out of the recession for someone in the South is likely much different than for someone on the prairies and also for someone on the West Coast. My personal feeling is that rather than launch countries into heated debates because different regions have different solutions and federal governments generally have blanket solutions, seems to me to be counter productive and generally negative. As Foreign Policy is concerned, I feel like world market participation is also tied to a international responsibility. If a country chooses, like Norway to primarily localize itself and deal very rarely with other countries, then I think its responsibility to the rest of the world is very minimal. (Same goes for regions and cities)If a country like Canada, Australia or China's economy is so tied to trade, like they are, I think that there is an immense responsibility to trade fairly with the rest of the world. I agree with the predominant dialogue that we all need to take care of our homes, but I also think that the bigger picture and responsibility is important to making sure that we can keep our commitments and continue to take care of ourselves at home.... I am not making any judgement on who should be voted for in this election or any other, just more interested in a dialogue that is possible because we can communicate over borders so easily and with so many points of view, and what types of rights and responsibilities that go with that.

12 years ago
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communicate over the borders...? I'd love to but unfortunately I am from the country that invented this... [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing[/url] Funnier yet is what this party called the Native American Party.

12 years ago
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