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FLASHPRO
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FLASHPRO
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New Styles

Website Comments by FLASHPRO

We've been trying to come up with a new list of styles. I orginally started with a huge list (about 100) of them. Some of the BP Crew have taken a look, but tonight I tried making a more consolidated list. We need to get this finalized ASAP in order to begin fixing the beer database. Please make comments and suggestions. I'm by no means an expert in all these styles! ALES Abbey Blonde Abbey Dubbel Abbey Tripel Abbey Quadrupel Belgian Ale Belgian Strong Ale Flemish Sour Saison Biere de Garde Lambic - Fruit Lambic - Faro Lambic - Gueuze Barleywine Brown Ale American Pale Ale English Pale Ale Mild Ale Bitter ESB IPA Imperial IPA English Strong Ale Robust Porter Sweet Porter Dry Stout Sweet Stout Oatmeal Stout Imperial Stout Scottish Ale Altbier Kolsch American Wheat German Wheat Belgian White (Wit) LAGERS Bock Doppelbock Eisbock Kellerbier Dunkel / Dark Lager Vienna Marzen / Oktoberfest Schwarzbier Rauchbier Pale Lager Strong Pale Lager Light Lager Bohemian / Czech Pilsener OTHER California Common Fruit Beer Black & Tan Non Alcoholic Rye Beer Smoked Beer Spiced


18 years ago
# 5
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FLASHPRO
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In Reply To #2 I didn't want to split the belgians into even more, and one of the "other" sites uses Belgian Pale Ale and Belgian Dark Ale, along with additional "Strong"s for both. I just used belgian, and a belgian strong (in addition to all the abbeys). If you guys think we need a pale and dark for each, then ok. I believe only one of my 3 references did that. I had about a half dozen german wheat beer styles, but I didn't see a good way to divide them into two without dividing them into more. So I lumped them all together. We coudl always sort them out later. I wanted this thing consolidated as much as reasonable. Maibock was on my list but one of you convinced me to take it off. I read some definitions and agreed that it really doesn't belong on a consolidated list, as it's still a bock, only a celebratory one often in May. Porters are something I wasn't sure about. I was considering making just one Porter style, but put down two instead. I could use more opinions on this. Altbier is listed there. Export Stout is something I thought didn't belong on this consolidated list. Also, some of the subcategories will have a general style such as "Stout" and "Porter" for beers that we just don't know exactly what type they belong to.

18 years ago
# 6
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FLASHPRO
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In Reply To #3 Well, we will have "Lager" as a generic option only for beers that have unknown styles except that we know it's a lager. The Pale Lager would be for something like Bud. I don't want to call them "American Standards" like RB does. If they do need a category just for the popular american ones then I'd want to call it somethign else like "American Common" I never liked the term "Malt Liquor" and assumed it would part of the Strong Pale Lager category, as would Bud Ice. I didn't want to get too specific in this list. Hefeweizen goes along with what i said about Germans int he last post

18 years ago
# 7
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In Reply To #5 I was considering an Old Ale to be part of the English Strong Ale category. All of those other ales I think are too specific to have their own styles. There will be a generic "Ale" style. I think I forgot to add Helles. I meant to. Kolsch, is that a lager or ale? I have it listed already under the Ales. I thought that's what it was when i looked it up. I'm not sure if we should have Ciders and Meads, but I'll add those as two styles for now.

18 years ago
# 8
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BRETT
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In Reply To #1 If 1400 people or so are going to be adding beers to the database and choosing an appropriate category for their newly added beer, the basic 26 styles may make adding a beer easier. http://:Dwww.mv.com/ipusers/slack/bjcp/style-index.html

18 years ago
# 9
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In Reply To #8 I believe a Kolsch is a lager that is fermented at ale temperatures before it is brought down to lagering temperatures. A maibock fits different style guidelines than a regular bock. You could group it together with helles bock, but it's in no way just a normal bock.

18 years ago
# 10
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In Reply To #10 Well, of course they're not exactly the same (although the Jackson book i referred to said there is not much difference?) but if I went by all differences in tehs tyles then we'd be stuck with the 97 I started with, and we'd have to differentiate the german beers to be consistent with our level of accuracy.

18 years ago
# 11
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FLASHPRO
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In Reply To #9 Well, there is no real rule of what the basic styles of beer are. I referred to the BJCP styles when I came up with my list of 97 or so styles. Even the two most popular beer sites don't agree with the BJCP. All this is giving me a headache!

18 years ago
# 12
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In Reply To #10 I don't think Maibock and Bock are different at all. Maibock is just a bock that is released in May. Just a way to sell more beer under a different name. *Assuming that whatever brewery I am talking about makes a bock*

18 years ago
# 13
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I'm leaning towards changing "Porter" and "Baltic Porter", no others.

18 years ago
# 14
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COTTRELL
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In Reply To #13 A maibock is certainly paler and lighter in body and flavor than a bock. Even the BJCP puts them in different style guidelines.

18 years ago
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