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Qatfish

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Posted Sep 24 2013 at 11:21:21 PM   |
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With the help of personal vaporizers (sometimes but, I think, erroneously called "electronic cigarettes"), I've quit smoking. My taste buds are changing. It will be interesting to see what effect this has on my reviews. [8D]
slowrunner77

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Posted Sep 24 2013 at 11:31:33 PM   |
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Congratulations!
I bet things will liven up quite a bit.
fretwalker

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Posted Sep 24 2013 at 11:41:43 PM   |
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Qat, what brand of e-cig are you using? The two I've tried have been quite harsh, and trigger a serious coughing fit!
mwiscount

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Posted Sep 25 2013 at 7:07:01 AM   |
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Way to go Qat! I admire your mission and accomolishment! Let's find a night to celebrate. It's Oktoberfest season you know. Two reasons to get together! [8D]
FoamDome

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Posted Sep 25 2013 at 11:35:29 PM   |
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quote: Originally posted by Qatfish

With the help of personal vaporizers (sometimes but, I think, erroneously called "electronic cigarettes"), I've quit smoking. My taste buds are changing. It will be interesting to see what effect this has on my reviews. [8D]


Congrats, Qat! Quitting an old habit is tough enough, but quitting an addictive habit takes true grit. Good job!
Qatfish

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Posted Sep 26 2013 at 6:13:47 AM   |
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quote: quote: quote: Originally posted by fretwalker

Qat, what brand of e-cig are you using? The two I've tried have been quite harsh, and trigger a serious coughing fit!

I've got some recommendations, bear with me...

On a lark, I tried both the NJoy King and Blu. I had no intention, at that point, of quitting smoking. I just wanted to know what was up with those things I kept seeing at the convenience store. Those were harsh to me, too, honestly.

But I was intrigued by the concept and did some more research. The ones I got at the convenience store are popularly called "cigalikes" because they're shaped like cigarettes and usually attempt to mimic a tobacco or menthol flavor. Most "vapers," however, don't use this style of vaporizer (even the nondisposable variety). They forgo the similarity of look and feel in favor of kits that are more versatile, less expensive in the long run, and produce less waste.

The starter kit I got is basic, but one of the best among basic options: [url="http://www.discountvapers.com/kanger-evod-kit-black/"]two Kanger Evod clearomizer tanks, two eGo-style batteries, a charger, and a few replacement coil heads[/url] (available in a wide variety of colors). When a tank is mounted on a battery, the overall size of the unit is similar to a petit corona cigar, about 5.25" long and .25" in diameter. (I have since gotten a couple of [url="http://www.discountvapers.com/kanger-mini-protank-ii-w-removable-drip-tip/"]Kanger Mini Protank II[/url]s, which work on the same batteries and use the same coil heads, in addition to the Evods because some juices work better in a glass tank.) If you want to know more about these one, check out [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRtqakeg3z4"]PBusardo[/url], [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NL9WQR_UjI"]GrimmGreen[/url], and [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwQR2yBoOsk"]RiP Tripper[/url]'s YouTube reviews of the Kanger Evod (some of the details may go over your head at this point, but that's OK).

The tank may be filled with any flavor "ejuice" I want, from pipe tobacco to cherry cheesecake to green apple to pizza. If you can imagine a flavor, someone is probably making it, as well as many more you may not have imagined (menthol banana?). The juices also vary in terms of ingredient ratios (more propylene glycol provides a harder "throat hit," more vegetable glycerin makes bigger vapor clouds) and nicotine content (from 24mg, best suited to folks who smoked multiple packs a day, down to 0mg, for people who have kicked nicotine altogether). Some popular juice sources include [url="http://www.mtbakervapor.com/electronic-cigarette-nicotine-juice/"]Mt Baker Vapor[/url], [url="http://www.mister-e-liquid.com/brands/Mister%252dE%252dLiquid.html"]Mister E Liquid[/url], and [url="http://www.heathersheavenlyvapes.com/store3/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1"]Heather's Heavenly Vapes[/url], but there are many.

People who are really into "vaping" will get even more expensive and elaborate equipment (mechanical and regulated mods/APVs, rebuildables), but that's mostly an option for folks who are really into gadgetry, shiny toys, and/or striving to maximize the experience with bigger vapor clouds and so forth. (I'm not dissing it, some of that stuff is truly awesome, it's just not strictly necessary.)

I don't know what you've tried, but if it was anything like the convenience store cigalikes, I have a few ideas regarding the harshness and coughing. (I'm putting the most probable options first, as well as the most easily changed.)

1. Most new vapers cough, kinda like most new smokers cough. You're not used to it yet. (I also found that my nose was very runny for the first two weeks, and that went away.) :)

2. Vaporizers don't work the same way cigarettes do, so [url="http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/337017-inhalation-technique-e-cigarette.html"]a different inhalation technique[/url] should be used. You don't have to pull air into the fire to fuel it, because there is no fire, and you don't have to suck very hard to get the vapor into your mouth. :)

3. Vaping is dehydrating. Simultaneous rehydration is recommended.

4. Try a different flavor. Most new vapers are convinced that they want a tobacco flavor, but these tend to be harsher, a somewhat dissatisfying approximation of the tobacco flavor (it's not on fire and will never taste like it's on fire), and vaping will eventually make actual tobacco cigarettes taste bad anyway. Still, if fruit and dessert flavors are too sweet for you, you might look into coffee and nut flavors instead.

5. The nicotine content may have been too high for you. I smoked about half a pack of light cigarettes per day. 24mg juice, as found in the Blu disposable I got, was way too harsh for me. For me, 6mg of nicotine is best, maybe 10mg at most. The highest I would recommend starting on is 12-18mg, even less if you're a light smoker.

6. Some people have a sensitivity or allergy to propylene glycol. If changing inhalation technique, flavor, and nicotine content don't work, try a 100% VG juice without PG.

7. According to what I've heard, it's much less common, but some people are sensitive to VG rather than PG. If you've tried all the other things, try eliminating VG.

I hope that's not too much information. [:D]
Qatfish

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Posted Sep 26 2013 at 6:21:45 AM   |
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quote: Originally posted by FoamDome

Quitting an old habit is tough enough, but quitting an addictive habit takes true grit. Good job!

Fortunately for me, this method has made things easy:

1. I've gone "cold turkey" on the smoke, but not the nicotine. I can wean myself off the nicotine slowly without any more smoke intake.

2. Unlike nicotine patches and gums, I can also retain some of the "ritual" and feel of smoking. For some folks, such as myself, the ritual has as much appeal as the nicotine, if not more.

So it's a cool combination of instant and gradual. I instantly quit smoking a few weeks ago. I have not smoked at all since. The health benefits of not inhaling smoke began right away. But I'm only giving up the nicotine gradually, and that makes it much easier. :)
Qatfish

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Posted Sep 26 2013 at 6:22:20 AM   |
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quote: Originally posted by mwiscount

It's Oktoberfest season you know.

Mmmmmm!
mwiscount

181 posts
Posted Sep 26 2013 at 7:07:34 AM   |
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So I take "Mmmmmmm" as a "yes". Let's set a date! We'll call it Tastetoberfest! Hurrah to awakened taste buds! :p
Qatfish

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Posted Sep 26 2013 at 2:17:11 PM   |
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quote: Originally posted by mwiscount

So I take "Mmmmmmm" as a "yes". Let's set a date! We'll call it Tastetoberfest! Hurrah to awakened taste buds! :p

Yes, I'm in! [:D]
fretwalker

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Posted Sep 29 2013 at 6:54:26 PM   |
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quote: Originally posted by Qatfish

quote: quote: quote: quote: Originally posted by fretwalker

Qat, what brand of e-cig are you using? The two I've tried have been quite harsh, and trigger a serious coughing fit!



I hope that's not too much information. [:D]


Knowledge is power!

I tried Blu and Swisher, naively assuming the transition would be easy, simple soul that I am. I see this is going to require a bit more thought.

A million thanks, Qat!
Suds McDuff

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Posted Sep 30 2013 at 5:02:31 PM   |
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Congrats! and good luck!

my mom quit using an e-cig, she loves that damn thing.
her friend uses one too and calls it her pacifer..
Qatfish

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Posted Oct 01 2013 at 2:27:26 PM   |
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quote: Originally posted by fretwalker

I tried Blu and Swisher, naively assuming the transition would be easy, simple soul that I am.

Regarding ease of transition, I think there's a lot of variety from person to person. Some folks give up smoking entirely right away. Other people continue to smoke some cigarettes (but fewer!) for a while after they start vaping (from a couple of weeks up to a few months). In either case, vaping replaces at least some cigarettes and therefore reduces harm, and most people trying to quit consider that harm reduction to be the most important thing.

A vaping experience cannot be exactly like a smoking experience because they really are two different things. But among the things one can trade for habitual smoking, I do think vaping is the most similar-- much closer to the smoking experience than patches or gum, for example. :)

It's well worth giving a try, I think. [url="http://www.discountvapers.com/kanger-evod-kit-stainless/"]The starter kit[/url] that I got was close to the price of a carton of cigarettes, and a few sample-sized bottles of juice (3-6ml bottles are considered sample-sized) didn't add much more. [8D]

If you're living in Covington, you're not too far from [url="http://altsmoke.com/"]AltSmoke[/url] and [url="http://www.robinsvapors.com/"]Robin's Vapors[/url]. According to their websites, they don't have the same kind of starter kit I'm recommending, but they have other equipment you can handle and check out and probably have on-site juice tasting.
myke

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Posted Oct 01 2013 at 10:53:37 PM   |
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I recently quit smoking(6 months now) and I too also noticed my palate has indeed changed. Certain macro's I used to enjoy now and then I can no longer drink.
Qatfish

166 posts
Posted Oct 02 2013 at 6:11:04 AM   |
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quote: Originally posted by myke

Certain macro's I used to enjoy now and then I can no longer drink.

[:D]
Qatfish

166 posts
Posted Jan 23 2014 at 3:47:43 AM   |
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It's been 4 months since I had a cigarette. I have NOT smoked nearly 1500 cigarettes. I still use the vaporizer, but I can go much longer without using it, if I want to, than I could previously go without smoking a cigarette. This is a truly wonderful thing.

If anyone is considering using a personal vaporizer to quit smoking, I can say that it has helped me do just that. [:D]


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